Countless weak people, the strongest would then win since they did not live up to their standards. In his mind, those you were strong would always win and seize power, making the weaker ones invisible at all. This was in conflict in every way because Plato was not only seeking the good of himself but of everyone else and he wanted many to learn to have morals (Kinneging, 2001). Thrasymuchus was selfish in anything that gave him more power than he wanted to obtain and was an influence for many to be or think like him. His impression was that men have the right to be able to exercise this power as long as they are able to handle the power and do what they want. As long as they get away with it and there are no consequences or moral punishment. Plato always thought positively and hoped that all men would learn to do good and have morals for the good of all society. Gaining power by doing what is right and fair for all, stopping anyone, including tyrants, from taking over everything with their injustice. Plato not only wanted to give individual men the power to make their souls good, but also to